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Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q7 - What level and type of regulation is needed for producers?

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What level and type of regulation is needed for producers?


Experience has shown that the Designated Grower model is successful. Let people grow at home.

Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q6 - Which production model would best meet consumer demand while ensuring that public health and safety objectives are achievable?

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Which production model would best meet consumer demand while ensuring that public health and safety objectives are achievable?


From the options





These don't look like actual 'options', because hope production as well as Good productions practices and Product packaging and labelling requirements are 3 things needed.   It seems that this question is loaded to produce the expected answer.

Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q5 - What are your views on the most appropriate production model?

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What are your views on the most appropriate production model? 

Possible Options

  1. Production Model: Experience with both home cultivation and government-controlled production in the context of relatively small numbers of medical users suggests neither approach would be in the public interest in the context of the larger numbers of users expected in a legalized market. Therefore, some form of private sector production with appropriate government licensing and oversight could allow for safe and secure production of legal marijuana with adequate choice (both price and strain) for consumers.
  2. Good production practices: In general, ingestible products must meet certain quality standards. In the medical marijuana regime, Health Canada has established product content and production controls that have proven effective in minimizing risks to clients. Similarly, safeguards could be put in place to ensure that marijuana is produced and stored in sanitary and secure conditions. There could be strict security requirements to minimize the possibility of diversion. Controls could be placed on pesticides that can be used, and on microbial and chemical contaminants. Marijuana could also be subject to analytical testing so that those consuming can be reliably advised of its contents, particularly amounts of THC and CBD.
  3. Product packaging and labelling: The way in which products are packaged and labelled offers an opportunity to minimize the harms of marijuana, particularly for children and youth. Measures to consider implementing include: child-proof packaging to prevent accidental ingestion by children; and, labels on packages to contain both important information about the product (e.g., THC and CBD content) as well as appropriate health warning messages.


Neither option.  It's actually been proven that home grown cannabis IS actually safe.  The only reason that there could be problems is that there is a very short supply of professional gardeners and botanical experts to consult.  You could go to a local garden centre, but they wont be able to provide advice on how to grow cannabis (because it's illegal).
If it was simply removed from the CDSA, then actual experience would be known.



Because cannabis does not cause death, there should not be concern about the products. 

Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q4 - Should the minimum age be consistent across Canada, or is it acceptable that there be variation amongst provinces and territories?

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Should the minimum age be consistent across Canada, or is it acceptable that there be variation amongst provinces and territories?


The reason for letting the provinces decide is because it puts it at the same level as alcohol.  We (the authors of this document) believe that Cannabis should not be controlled by the federal government, in anyway.  Selecting the option for a Canada-wide minimum age, implies that there are some regulations to be put in place in the form of a new Act or set or regulations or amendments to existing Acts or Regulations.  This is something we don’t want.  
It is acceptable that there would be variation amongst provinces and territories because it should

Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q3 - What are your views on the minimum age for purchasing and possessing marijuana?

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What are your views on the minimum age for purchasing and possessing marijuana? 


There is no real need to have a minimum age for purchasing and possessing marijuana.   There should, however, be simple packaging and signage requirements that recommend to be used for adults.  

The reason for this, is that age limits and the decision for what is classified as an 'adult' is really arbiturary.   Considering that at 16 an individual is allowed to get a drivers licence, to drive a vehicle capable of killing, there is some assurance that the person driving will be smart enough to handle it.  This is why there is a road test done, where a licence is considered a privelage, and not a right.   Driving a vehicle can cause death.

Considering that no deaths are caused when consuming cannabis, the only 'danger' is a short term 'high'.   This wares off after a few hours with some food and rest.  

In Europe for example, Alcohol is available at grocery stores.   But alcohol has the negetive effects of being a social disturbance.  In Mexico, you can buy alcohol in the grocery store, next to water, Cola and Fanta.   Because it available, there is no 'you can't have that' signs.  
It's natural to want what we can't have.

By removing the temptation, with simply having it available, this removes the social 'need to impress'.   It's not a big deal to have a cellphone.   And it's not known what effects cellphones have on the brain.     However, if there was a legal restriction  on getting a cellphone, say at 16, then those at 13 would be wanting one.

13 - Age minimum for getting a Google account.  This also isn't needed.   However. ..

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age


"The legal drinking age is the age at which a person can consume or purchase alcoholic beverages. These laws cover a wide range of issues and behaviors, addressing when and where alcohol can be consumed. The minimum age alcohol can be legally consumed can be different from the age when it can be purchased in some countries. These laws vary among different countries and many laws have exemptions or special circumstances. Most laws apply only to drinking alcohol in public places, with alcohol consumption in the home being mostly unregulated (an exception being the UK, which has a minimum legal age of five for supervised consumption in private places). Some countries also have different age limits for different types of alcoholic drinks."

It seems reasonable to equate the consumption of Alcohol with the consumption of Cannabis.   Considering that Cannabis can be served in the form of a beverage such as a juice, or a tea, or a frozen drink. 

When trying to decide on an appropriate age for consumption, it is important to identify the underlying reason for this. 
Is the public in any danger when someone consumes cannabis?   The answer is no.    There is more danger when people are consuming alcohol.

Barbados
"Those aged 10–17 are allowed to consume alcohol provided they are with a parent or guardian."

It seems reasonable to let the parent or guardian decide what is best, regardless of the age.    Education on responsable consuption should be done at the home.   Considering that no deaths are resulting from consuming cannabis, the risks are very minimal.

A greater risk for kids is an electric train set, as an adult should be present to explain the consept of electricity.   However, a small volt of electricity would no cause death.... just a shalk... enough that kids would take notice, and be careful. 
Licking a battery top is more dangerous than can cannabis.

Why is there a mimum age for alcohol?

The answer is not directly clear,  in the US there is the Alcohol age Act. Where Canada followed.

In Canada


Its clear that Alcohol is a National Priority,
http://www.ccsa.ca/Eng/topics/alcohol/Pages/default.aspx   However, considering the fact that the Harm associated with Cannabis is really unclear.

Perhaps after cannabis simply is removed from the CDSA, and the provinces set their own regulations, THEN a national strategy is needed.   Since death does not occur when consuming cannabis, the cause for concern seems rather irrational.

I agree that people even admit to consuming cannabis as recreational... even though it's illegal.  But the harms associated with cannabis does not justify a restriction with age limit.

Perhaps after 10 years of having no federal regulations in place, a proper study can be done to see what negative effects are shown.

Age for Babysitting

" Not all children are responsible enough by the age of 12 years, for instance, to babysit other children. It is important to know that there is no age specified by law for babysitting. It is a matter of the parent determining if a teenager is responsible enough to provide a safe environment for their younger children."

At What Age Can a Child be Left Home Alone?

Contrary to most peoples’ perception, there is not specific age at which a child can be left unattended. The Child and Family Services Act states that parents of children under the age of 16 years, must make “reasonable provisions” for their care. This requires parents to ensure that if they leave their children at home alone, that they have made appropriate efforts to ensure their children’s safety. This must go hand in hand with a common sense approach, for instance, ensuring children have emergency phone numbers, are mature and responsible and are not left for long periods of time without adult supervision. CAS strongly suggests parents not to leave a child under the age of ten (10) alone. If the child is under the age of ten (10) and CAS intervenes, the onus is on the parent to provide reasons and rationale to CAS that their child has not been left in a potentially harmful situation. In addition, the Criminal Code of Canada includes the offence of abandoning a child. Everyone who unlawfully abandons or exposes a child who is under the age of 10 years, so that his/her life is or is likely to be endangered, or his/her health is or is likely to be permanently injured, is guilty of an offence that carries a penalty of imprisonment of not more than two (2) years.

The Criminal code of Canada - copied here for reference.

Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
Abandoning child
218 Every one who unlawfully abandons or exposes a child who is under the age of ten years, so that its life is or is likely to be endangered or its health is or is likely to be permanently injured,
  • (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or
  • (b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding eighteen months.
  • R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 218;
  •  2005, c. 32, s. 12.

Selection Guidelines:
Age should not always be the determining factor. Although the minimum age recommended by Halton CAS and Halton Community Standards for a babysitter is 12, not every 12 year old or teenager is mature enough to care for a baby or a child. Take the time to get to know the prospective babysitter and use your discretion to determine if they seem to have a strong sense of responsibility to care of your child. Has the sitter taken a babysitting course or First Aid? Courses are available from Red Cross, St. John's Ambulance, Parks and Recreation and the Board of Education. Reference checks are important. Even if you know the potential babysitter well, do not hesitate to contact other parents who have used his or her services. Even though the sitter may be a wonderful neighbour, he or she may not have the skills or maturity to look after children. Older siblings are not always the best candidates for babysitting a younger child. Some may resent the expectation placed on them to provide care for the younger child. Parents should ensure that they are making supervision decisions with their child’s best interest and safety in mind, not for financial or convenience reasons.





If a child is old enough, at the age of 12 to babysit another HUMAN BEING and has had First Aid Training, what reasonable grounds are there to restrict the consumption of cannabis?   The child would certainly be old enough to be able to read the label on the package, and see what effects that cannabis has.    Just like how a child of 12 should know enough to not give a baby coke.  And the child is old enough to handle an exacto knife, and glass mirror and a straw.   But RESPONSIBLE to know that it's not healthy option.

A child of the age of 12 should be old enough to know and understand when coke is put onto a coin (and old penny) in a small shot glass, to see that when left for a few weeks, the penny will dissolve 

Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q2 - Are there other actions which the Government should consider enacting alongside these measures?

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Are there other actions which the Government should consider enacting alongside these measures?


No.  The measures themselves are overarching. You can buy items much more dangerous in a convenient store.  Matches, lighters, propane tanks, and slurpees (which contain lots of sugar).  Remember that no one dies from cannabis! 

Cannabis should be removed from the CDSA as per section 60, as a Matter of Public interest.

Health Canada Marijuana Task Force Q1 - Do you believe that these measures are appropriate to achieve the overarching objectives to minimize harms, and in particular to protect children and youth?

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Do you believe that these measures are appropriate to achieve the overarching objectives to minimize harms, and in particular to protect children and youth? 



  1. Minimum age for legal purchase:
  2. Advertising and marketing restrictions to minimize the profile and attractiveness of products:
  3. Taxation and pricing:
  4. Limits of allowable THC potency in marijuana:
  5. Restrictions on marijuana products:
  6. Limitations on quantities for personal possession:
  7. Limitation on where marijuana can be sold:
No.  The measures themselves are overarching. You can buy items much more dangerous in a convenient store.  Matches, lighters, propane tanks, and Slurpee (which contain lots of sugar).  Remember that no one dies from cannabis!  

  1. Cannabis does NOT have health costs.  “While it is difficult to directly compare the harms of cannabis, alcohol and tobacco, harms can be indirectly compared by measuring the social costs connected to each of the substances (Figure 2).”
    http://www.heretohelp.bc.ca/visions/cannabis-vol5/cannabis-tobacco-and-alcohol-use-in-canada

  2. "In the case of tobacco, the overall objective is to reduce or even eliminate use for all Canadians."  This seems to be an utter LIE.   If Canada wanted to eliminate use of tobacco, then the Tobacco Act SHOULD NOT have been created!  Have tobacco as a SCHEDULE I substance.  As it causes THE MOST harm.  As Cannabis is FAR less dangerous than Alcohol & Tobacco, then it makes NO sense for there to be ANY measures.
  3. Taxing is still prohibition, it means that it will be a TRILLION dollar industry of government profits... and the EXPENSE of those who need it!   Cannabis is SAFER than Alcohol and should NOT have the restrictions on it.  Increase the tax on OIL & Gasoline and THAT will make more revenue for the government.  As GASOLINE causes more HARM to everyone AROUND THE WORLD.   TAX the Tar Sands! 


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